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Help Identifying Cause of Total Power Outage in Commercial Unit – Suspected Builder-Related

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Hi everyone,
I’m seeking insight into a mass electrical outage that occurred at my commercial premises, a hot yoga studio located in Australia—on May 28, 2025. The incident resulted in a complete loss of power to my unit and significant damage to equipment. I’d greatly appreciate expert perspectives on what might have caused the issue and whether liability could fall on a builder working on the roof at the time.
Background:
  • My building is a single-level commercial complex with 7 units, all connected to a main switchboard at the opposite end of the property from my unit.
  • I have one main panel and one subpanel inside my unit.
  • The subpanel feeds 24 Far-Infrared heating panels, wired as 2 panels per circuit (12 circuits total).
  • All equipment was functioning normally in the early morning (heating panels, AC, lights, computer).
Incident:
  • Around mid-morning, my entire unit suddenly lost power—every circuit tripped, including the main switch at the external building switchboard.
  • At the same time, roofing contractors were replacing the metal roof across the building. They claimed to be working only at the opposite end of the building, focusing on air conditioners.
  • My staff immediately consulted the builder, who began flicking breakers at both my internal panels. When nothing restored power, he brought in two workers and later accessed the main external switchboard.
  • Shortly after they left, power returned to lights only. Heating panels and several devices remained non-functional. The builder had energized all the switches in my main panel and sub-panel. He then went down to the other end of the building and energized the main power switch which was in the off position (no one knows why it was off).
Findings (from Licensed Electrician Contractor):
  • All 15 sub-circuits were tested: 12 failed insulation resistance tests, with faults between active/earth and neutral/earth.
  • 11 of those 12 faulty circuits were connected to the heating panels.
  • A total of 23 heating panels were damaged, along with a computer and 2 LED panels.
  • They suspect a massive inrush current occurred when the builder reset the main breaker without isolating any downstream circuits.
  • The inrush current estimate was 188A (24 x 1800W panels), which likely exceeded the breaker’s rating and triggered the damage.
  • They concluded the most probable cause was improper energizing after an initial trip—everything was left ON during reset.
No storms, grid faults, or external electrical events were reported in the area that day.
What I’m Seeking Advice On:
  1. What would cause every circuit in a unit to trip simultaneously—including the external main switch—if not external grid issues?
  2. Could roofing work (e.g., screws through beams or AC service) feasibly damage internal wiring or cause a fault?
  3. Is it reasonable to suspect the builder caused the fault through improper handling of electrical infrastructure (e.g., flipping breakers without isolation)?
  4. What further tests or investigations would you recommend to conclusively determine the root cause?
  5. Any insights on how to support a potential liability claim (e.g., evidence, legal steps, typical builder responsibilities)?
  6. Is there a test that can be performed on the main power feed line from the main switch board at the other end of the building to my unit that could detect if the cable was “screwed” into or damaged and consequently had the screw removed leaving a damaged cable which is not currently shorting?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer guidance. I’m trying to get clarity before pursuing the matter further.
 
#2 ·
What happens if there is a major power failure during a storm? Does the utility go around shutting down panels in every office, store, house? No, they just restore the main distribution. There might be 50 buildings or more on one branch. It could be a loose, lost, or broken neutral going to the building or just to your suite. A high voltage primary could have accidentally come in contact with the neutral . It could be a tree branch or a kite string. Here the utility neutral and the primary is bare or un-insulated. There are many reasons.
 
#3 ·
not enough pertinent info to make a conclusion

much too much is left to - he said he "......."
the initial condition was disturbed by non qualified individuals attempting to restore power with no more knowledge than a home owner

this is a problem right here :
Findings (from Licensed Electrician Contractor):
  • All 15 sub-circuits were tested: 12 failed insulation resistance tests, with faults between active/earth and neutral/earth.
  • 11 of those 12 faulty circuits were connected to the heating panels.
  • A total of 23 heating panels were damaged, along with a computer and 2 LED panels.
  • They suspect a massive inrush current occurred when the builder reset the main breaker without isolating any downstream circuits.
  • The inrush current estimate was 188A (24 x 1800W panels), which likely exceeded the breaker’s rating and triggered the damage.
  • They concluded the most probable cause was improper energizing after an initial trip—everything was left ON during reset.
i care nothing about his license, i know many, many, who have a masters and cannot trouble shoot a mobile home
what i care about is his experience and knowledge in forensics testing

1: what voltage level was he using to test insulation ? how were the heaters able to operate before the event ?
a resistive load (electric heat) does NOT cause an inrush akin to an inductive load
not sure what "active/earth and neutral/earth" means , but if that is neutral and ground that will not cause a trip because in the end they go to the same place
3: define "damage" to a heating circuit from being disconnected
5: 188 amps is nothing, mobile homes use a 200A main with electric heat all day every day
6: as stated earlier , utility does that every time you lose their feed and it hurts nothing

based on your statements of what happened, and the damage to a computer and led panel .... the likely scenario was a brown out, either inside the building or from utility
as for your rights to compensation ,,, i have no idea about law in Oz
but around here if you want electricity , you accept the dirty glitchy power the utility gives you
 
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#4 ·
Sounds like you fried the surge suppressors (mov's) in the panels which would account for the failed insulation reading and all the breakers tripping. When a surge protection mov see's hi voltage it clamps it to ground. In normal circumstances that happens for less than a millisecond. If it happens over a long period of time the suppressor blows the mov's open or closed (i see more closed than open). Breakers trip to clear the suppressors off line.

Remove panels from circuits and re-meg the lines (wires). Surge suppression is layered don't have the first layer attached to something expensive to replace.
 
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