Well i have just started buying my tools back since all of mine were stolen out of my truck. i purchased a pair of the angle head ***** and side cutters. the ***** brand new first day i had them the cutting edge gaped on 16 gauge wire and the handles were off center making one handle look longer than the other. the side cutters well to make a long story short i now know the dipped handles even slip off. I starting to go to ideal, wiha, and knipex. i hate to leave klein because of how long i have owned them and used them but i am not going to spend 30 dollars on a tool that craps out in one day.
What happened to klein?????
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Alligator pump pliers, here. Very durable. Had them 5 years, or so. (7, 10, &12").
I plan on getting the Cobra models next, if I ever need to replace a Knipex Alligator. (I had to rescue my 7" Alligators from inside a block wall a couple weeks ago. I thought they were going to remain permanently there, but I got 'em out).
Dipped grips here. They may have hardened a bit with age, and with exposure to grease and oil from my previous job as a machine mechanic. I seem to use the 7s and the 10s quite often.
The jaws have great teeth and ideal shape. They grip on round and square. Pretty much anything that they will open up for. Grip like a pipe wrench.
Ah, and the makers designed them so the handles don't pinch yer fingers, like some other pliers do.
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In general, do you lot prefer comfort or dipped grips? I figure that the dipped ones would be better on pump pliers but not sure.
I certainly need some new ones. I have an old pair of channies that suck and another pair of companions that are even worse.
I certainly need some new ones. I have an old pair of channies that suck and another pair of companions that are even worse.
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I was in homeless despot today and noticed they have a wackload of new Klein stuff in. I was a little surprised to see that a lot of it said made in china on the box. (automatic strippers, conduit cutters etc.)
I also noticed that on some of the packages (screwdrivers) it had "MADE IN USA" above the flag that normally resides in the bottom left hand corner of Klein's usual blister packs. But for some reason, the pliers had only the flag and "USA" below it instead of "MADE IN USA". I wonder why that is?
I also noticed that on some of the packages (screwdrivers) it had "MADE IN USA" above the flag that normally resides in the bottom left hand corner of Klein's usual blister packs. But for some reason, the pliers had only the flag and "USA" below it instead of "MADE IN USA". I wonder why that is?
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idk why that is i do know that all off the kleins i just bought are made in the good ole USofA. but ideals screwdrivers at least the small tech drivers are made in taiwan
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They discontinued all of the Greenlee stuff and now have only Klein (and commercial electric). Klein fishtapes:blink:, never used one of those. I need some new glowsticks, probably just get them at the supply house.
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Hey the klein fishtapes work pretty good, but i didnt do a 25 foot drop test on them like ideal does to theres. but hey i dont need a fishtape that high anyways. the klein fishtapes feel sturdy and they roll out pretty easy and they have numbers marked on them to let you know how far you have pushed the fishtape
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That could be pretty handy. I have an ideal 250'nylon, and two greenlee 100' metal and nylon. They seem to hold up pretty well. My greenlee 100' is probably down to about 70' by now though.:whistling2:
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I have one of the 240' Klein depth finder tapes. Its the best tape Ive used, Even tho I like and always used the ideal tapes. I used to use the Ideal pull tape with the footage marks on it to make up my wire pulls. Now I just push the fish in(unless its PVC then I just vac it) and once the fish is through I can make up the wire pull.
My Greenlee 100' nylon is gone, it was down to about 40' and I felt it was time to junk it. But I got one of the 100' Klein nylon tapes and I am really not that impressed, it seems like it will break a lot easier than the Greenlee. The best nylon tape I ever used was the Ideal my old employer had, 200' with steel leader, I pulled thousands of feet of wire with that tape and never broke it. Ideal does have a new nylon tape that is flat like a steel tape, its called Volt-Guard and I really want to try one out.
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I needed a new pair of gloves the other day (usually I don't wear gloves, but it's been pretty cold) and when I was at the supply i picked up a pair of Klein journeymen gloves.
Hecho en Vietnam.
I've worn them for two days of work and they are already falling apart.
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Hecho en Vietnam.
I've worn them for two days of work and they are already falling apart.
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Man screw klein....KNIPEX is where its at!!! Mine can still cut paper after 5 years of cutting hardened screws and various other things.
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i like ideal tools
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i used to im just wiha and knipex now. the ideal side cutters i got i do not like they gap way to easy i have the 35-3012's and all of there screwdrivers are made in taiwan
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hey anyone know if you can warranty knipex back at lowes? as for my kleins i no longer buy or use them no one down here warranties them anymore, i am not a big fan of ideal but their screwdrivers are so much better even though they are not made in the US. plus ideal holds to their lifetime warranty. i would like to get more knipex and wiha and witte but none of the supply houses i use carry them and its almoet impossible to warranty them any suggestions???
Ideal tools are Channelock in disguise, at least the linesmans are. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Channelock makes their strippers too.
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They were channelocks but are not anymore.
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So who makes them?
Knipex at Lowe's
Yes..you can warranty Knipex at Lowe's if it is one of the 16 Knipex tools Lowe's stocks
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